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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jun 7, 2013 14:23:41 GMT -8
The 3rd D3 Hardbody Nats will be held on Sat. Aug. 31 and Sun. Sept. 1st. The race schedule has not been determined yet, but I would like your inputs, feedback on what classes will be run. We've had a few changes over the years as far as racing classes are concerned and I want to see if any changes should be made for the Nats. Here's some topics which may or may not be of interest: 1. Should the Talladega Nights modified 36D NASCAR race continue to be part of the Nats or should it become a separate annual event? The reason I ask this question is because the participation in this event has been low the last two years and since its on the King track, maybe it should be held as a separate event in order to concentrate the racing on the flat track. 2. Should the latest new class, '46-'56 NASCARs be a separate race or included with the existing stock 36D NASCAR class? 3. Should the 80's-2013 NASCARs be strictly a "handicap" race since that's how we've been racing on a monthly basis. 4. Last year the '53 Corvette was a question mark as far as continuing to race it against other 3C cars. It was decided (by a vote of the racers) to continue racing the '53 vette, but use a handicap system. We haven't used the handicap system so far for the '53 vette and I doubt we will unless some racers feel its necessary. My question to the racers is: Should the '53 vette run with the other 3C cars in the Nats without using handicap? I'm all for "not" using handicap for this car since so many of the racers already race this car. It's a popular body because of its ease of mounting and low CG and it hasn't caused any problems as far as I know among the racers. Any other topics for discussion concerning the upcoming Nats? Keith
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Post by mkalelaw on Jun 8, 2013 10:37:02 GMT -8
I have no opinion on question1 as I have no experience with it.
On question 2, I think they should be together for what I assume are races on the Flat track.
On question 3, I agree, as you can well imagine, that the race should be a handicap race. It will then make at least one of the races competitive for our less than skilled drivers (me). My question is how is the handicap to be calculated? Or do we use existing handicaps?
For question 4, we have not used the handicap because we did not have a strictly 3C race since the vote. As such, lets use the 53s without a handicap because it does not seem to matter and racers can use their 53s at the Nationals.
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Post by craigg on Jun 8, 2013 14:10:09 GMT -8
As I don't run a 36D car I think it should be a separate race so we can race more other classes at the Nats.
The '46 to '56 NASCAR should definitely be a separate race.This will give an incentive to build these cars and it will just look cooler. And I don't think they are really as fast as the newer bodies.
The handicap would be good but there will probably be several racers without a handicap. Might be a problem.
I would actually like to see the '80's and the '90's to 2000's separated. With the '80's being a handicap race.
As I tore down my '53 when the initial ban was announced, and my two subsequent cars are not as fast, I think we should just toss them all in a trash can. Seriously I don't care.
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Post by rogeru on Jun 8, 2013 21:08:10 GMT -8
These are just my opinions of course.
I think the modified 36D class should not be run at the nat's as we don't race them and they're raced on a different track.
It would be nice to have the '46-'56 stockers run in their own race (I agree it would look really cool).
Not sure on using the handicap if there are some entries that don't normally race with us. OK either way with me. Also, separating the 80's from the '90s - 2000s would be nice if there are enough entries to race both classes
I think we should race the 3C's with no handicaps.
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jun 9, 2013 20:22:34 GMT -8
Thanks for the comments guys. I hope others will post their opinions on this topic. The more feedback, the better. The Hardbody Nats is less than 3 months away! Keith
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Post by brucewayne on Jun 25, 2013 17:04:00 GMT -8
#1, I know I don't have a car for this class nor any interest in building one either, so no real preference one way or another. I would say let the number of past entry's be the guide, or ask the racers to RSVP if they are planning to enter a car for this race. #2, If there is time in the weekend's race schedule, the '46-'56 NASCAR's should be a separate class for the best parody amongst the competitors. If time is limited, perhaps run them together with the other inline classes but award trophy's to the individual class winners as they do at Le Mans. #3, No, the '80's NASCAR should not be run with the Handicap. The handicap may be fine for the other 11 regular scheduled race meetings to encourage less experienced drivers/builders, but for the Nats all who enter this class should be prepared to race their best stuff as hard as they can and lets the chips fall to the most deserving driver/builder. Just ask Vic what he thinks #4, Keith, you have proven with your new Cobra that width and wheelbase is not that critical within this class. If people have built and prepared a '53 Vette for the class, I wouldn't object to their entry nor handicap them at all.
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Post by craigg on Jun 25, 2013 19:14:50 GMT -8
I think I will change my mind about the 80's NASCAR handicap for the Nats, I am now against it.
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Post by rogeru on Jun 25, 2013 19:59:29 GMT -8
After thinking about it I agree with Bruce and Craig, the 80s NASCAR's should be run without the handicaps for the Nat's. I also feel that all sport cars should run together with no handicaps, as we have been doing.
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jun 25, 2013 20:45:14 GMT -8
Thanks for your feedback guys.
On Sunday July 7th, Kenny, Hector and myself are meeting at BPR around 11 am. We will be discussing the upcoming Nats as far as race schedule, what/how races will be run, podium plaques, etc, etc. The purpose of the meeting is to finalize the schedule/etc. for the Nats so I can post here so everyone knows what to expect for the Nats.
Any D3 hardbody racer who wants to be part of the discussion (or just listen in) is welcome. We might decide to have our discussion at either BPR or Imperial Burger.
Keith
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jul 7, 2013 20:10:59 GMT -8
Had a meeting today with Kenny and Hector about the upcoming hardbody nats.
I will be posting a preliminary race schedule and details of the nats soon.
The Talladega Nights race "will not" be run at the Nats this year. If there's enough racer interest in this racing class, we can schedule a race day for it at some other time.
Also, since Falcon 7's are currently unavailable (out of stock until Sept.), we will announce an alternate motor for the Nats (the TSR D3 motor is still available and legal for hardbody racing). The alternate motor can be used at the Nats and the rest of this year, but will not be allowed next year (starting in January 2014) as the Falcon 7 will be available sometime in Sept. '13.
Stay tuned,
Keith
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Aug 2, 2013 9:26:54 GMT -8
Haven't found an alternate motor for the Falcon 7 yet. We have a month before the Nats!!!!! Good news today, Paul Sterrett will be competing at the Nats. It's been awhile since Paul last raced at BP, but I'm sure he'll be as fast as ever. Keith
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