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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jan 21, 2014 11:52:22 GMT -8
Yesterday at our monthly D3 hardbody races, Ken Dylke mentioned that our Jalopy rule for "sidewinder motors only" may be improved if we include "any" motor mounting (i.e., anglewinder, inline, sidewinder). After a brief discussion with Kenny, I thought his suggestion was a good one and should seriously be considered as a permanent rule change for the Jalopy class. This proposed rule change would make the Jalopy class similar to all of our classes (except for the '46-'56 and '57-'79 NASCAR classes which are strictly inline). Any comments on this proposed rule change? Keith
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Post by craigg on Jan 21, 2014 12:54:45 GMT -8
Being as Jalopies are probably the hardest chassis to build, due to the body shapes, this is a good change. I don't know if it will make it easier, but it can't hurt.
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rogeru
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Post by rogeru on Jan 21, 2014 15:49:28 GMT -8
I agree with this change. It might make it easier to fit a chassis under a jalopy body and would make gearing selection and adjustment easier.
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jan 21, 2014 16:42:09 GMT -8
As far as handling is concerned, I haven't seen any noticeable difference or advantage between sidewinder and anglewinder chassis. The 3" wide, tires beyond the body rule makes the Jalopy handle very well and the body style or scale (1/25 vs. 1/24) doesn't seem to matter. Keith
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Post by craigg on Jan 22, 2014 7:57:31 GMT -8
The only body issues, I have found is if you pick a big heavy one like my "39 Chevy, or one that is really hard to fit a chassis under.
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Post by mkalelaw on Jan 22, 2014 8:53:21 GMT -8
What was the original reason for the sidewinder rule? I assume it had a purpose.
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Jan 22, 2014 11:58:28 GMT -8
What was the original reason for the sidewinder rule? I assume it had a purpose. Michael, as I recall the original reason for "sidewinder only" was because some jalopy bodies are very narrow and if you don't have running boards on the body, only a sidewinder setup will fit the narrow body. Because of this, we decided to restrict Jalopies to a sidewinder motor mount so the narrow bodied cars are not at disadvantage to an anglewinder setup. Over the years, we've learned that the performance of a sidewinder vs. anglewinder is the same (not a noticeable difference in handling). Also, some of the anglewinder chassis built are very close to a sidewinder (as far as width) and thus there's no reason to limit this class to sidewinder only. Also, most Jalopies built over the years have incorporated the side running boards and thus a wider chassis for either a sidewinder or anglewinder is possible. Keith
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timneja
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Love racing these hard body cars!! The new knee is working better--so I'll be back soon!!
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Post by timneja on Feb 11, 2014 9:43:23 GMT -8
I'm good with whatever you guys come up with!!! I like the idea of getting rid of the old 36D motors too!! Too much of a pain and too expensive to buy all the parts necessary to get them to be fast and LIVE!! They are a little better than TSR's if you find a fast one---but close enough that a good builder and driver can make either work!! I'll move to the TSR motors for this class--build a little lighter--"gonzo"-- and see if I can keep up with the old cars!! Anglewinder/sidewinder--Jalopy's are cool either way!! The key seems to be finding the lighter smaller 1/'25 scale bodies and building accordingly!! I changed from my 39 chevy to a lighter coupe model--and picked up 4 laps in my overall totals at that last Nat's. So it worked going to the lighter body on the SAME chassis!! Once my knee heals--I'll be back to swap some plastic and paint with You'se guys!!! Enjoy!!!
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