rogeru
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Post by rogeru on Nov 17, 2015 15:41:15 GMT -8
Not sure where to post this so I'll put it here.
I agree with Tim (and others) that all of our races are for "mixed" classes. As it is now we have 11 classes of cars and you only need 1 or 2 cars to race in every race of the day.
I'd prefer to have separate races for each class - like all sports cars, all Jalopies, all Trans Am, or whatever class we're racing at that time. It just seems more realistic and more fun, IMO, to have everyone driving the same class of car, and we wouldn't need all the lap differentials. We should figure out how to run each class separately. Like rotating monthly, eliminating some classes, or ?
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Post by craigg on Nov 18, 2015 14:59:24 GMT -8
Whatever is decided, I will be there to race. I would like to continue the Mixed type race so I can run "no class" cars, and cars of "questionable legality". Sometimes it's just for fun. I really don't care for GTP, my impaired brain can't keep up with the faster cars.
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Post by Michael on Nov 18, 2015 19:51:18 GMT -8
We can have both. Just announce the races in advance by class and throw in some mixed races. But the way it is now reduces the desire for some to build a variety of cars when you can just have say 2 cars and be in virtually all the races.
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Post by gonzalez on Nov 19, 2015 0:01:07 GMT -8
can i chime in here? the problem is we cant get enough racers for the less popular classes.i agree that having a race with all the same class is great but just having 2 or 3cars in a race wouldnt be to challenging.thats why combined and mix was created so we would have a full field of cars andwho says you only need 2 cars to race? build any car you want and be assured that you can race it in a mixed race.now i can see maybe featuring a race for a specific class each mo. and see how that works out.although ill race whatever i like the idea of keeping inline only class just cause its a challenge.theres plenty of other classes if you want to go fast and handle good.the beauty of hardbody racing is there is something for everybody!go fast go slow its your own little world
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timneja
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Love racing these hard body cars!! The new knee is working better--so I'll be back soon!!
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Post by timneja on Nov 19, 2015 18:01:07 GMT -8
It's a double edged sword! If you DON'T schedule any races for the other class's--then ALL you get are mixed races and nobody building any cars. I"ve just lost interest with ONLY GTP and Late Model Nascar being all we run!! And I don't like mixed races because it's just an open free for all and we don't see how they stand up against each other in the same class. And IF I want to run GTP style cars for only SPEED reasons, I might as well go race LMP--or Retro and get REAL handling and speed. The hard body class's that attracted me to racing in the first place WERE the 46 to 56 class's and Jalopies and 60's and 70's Nascars!! Plus I LIKE the challenge of building INLINE , SIDEWINDER AND ANGLEWINDER cars!! Having all the chassis as angle winders is NOT as much fun!! When we started racing ONLY for speed--the 4second lap and GTP and Late model Nascar only--it gets BORING!! It's not what made hard body popular and fun in the past! If I want to go FAST--I"ll stick with Retro!! Sorry, just how I feel!! I miss the older, heavier, OLD SCHOOL race cars!!
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timneja
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Love racing these hard body cars!! The new knee is working better--so I'll be back soon!!
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Post by timneja on Nov 19, 2015 18:02:53 GMT -8
Look at the picture in our heading!! It's ONLY GTP!! IF that's what you promote, that's all you're going to get! IMHO!
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Post by Michael on Nov 19, 2015 19:00:24 GMT -8
So the answer is to mix it up. Have races by class and some mixed races thrown in. Like each Sunday have a mixed or combined race last, a NASCAR race and a specified race for another class of cars to lead off the day.
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Nov 19, 2015 20:19:00 GMT -8
Good discussion. Doesn't matter to me what we race as I've raced a variety of different class cars for a long time. The main focus over the last few years has been to have races which draw the most entries. It's been awhile but we did at one time have specific races for a particular class (jalopy or trans am or whatever). Over time we were not drawing enough entries to have full fields and even had crash and burn races.
It would be nice to have three races each month, i.e., mixed race, NASCAR and/or GTP race and a third race which would rotate classes being raced. Unfortunately, too many of our racers leave before we get to the 3rd race and we don't have enough turn marshalls to run a race (except for crash and burn which is not popular).
If there's a race format which will allow racing different classes from time to time and draw enough entries to have full fields or near full fields, I'm all for it. As I stated, doesn't matter to me. It's up to the hardbody racers to decide what race format they favor and we can try it out to see what result we get.
By the way, going to a race format in which we race twice a month is still a possibility. Two race days a month would allow more variety as far as what is raced while keeping the race day to two races (instead of trying to get in three races).
Keep this discussion going, we might end up with a better race format.
Keith
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Post by Michael on Nov 19, 2015 22:14:35 GMT -8
The issue with getting in 3 races has more to do with not getting the races started when scheduled. the Noon race usually does not start until 1 pm or a little later. If we start on time and move the races closer together we can get in the 3 and not lose racers.
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Post by Keith Tanaka on Nov 19, 2015 23:00:31 GMT -8
Michael, I checked the start times for the races this year to verify the actual start times. Most of the time, we started around 12:30 or earlier. For those races on the 5th Sunday of a month, we started an hour later since the track normally opens at 11 am rather than 10 am on our regular race day each month. This year has seen a much larger field of racers each month (except for this month's races) and we therefore had large round robin races rather than regular 8 heat races. This of course lengths the race day, but we still had 4 mains on most of those race days (rather than 3 mains). Last Sunday's races had the smallest turnout since last year and that's why we started later than usual as I waited longer to see if more racers would show up. I also spent a lot of time talking with Paul Frazier before the first race, otherwise we probably would have started sooner.
Anyway, I've noticed some racers are leaving earlier than in the past and this affects whether or not we have enough racers for a third race regardless of what time the 3rd race starts. Basically, the larger field of racers lengthens the race day by having either a large round robin race or two mains instead of one. This scenario means we can't finish the 3rd race of the day before 5 pm (before the early birds leave). Larger entry fields are good and bad? Good for BPR but not good for those we leave early and want to race 3 times.
All in all, after reviewing the races we've had so far this year, I'd say we've definitely had more races (heats) in the same amount of time as last year. Of course, we can always improve but I don't think we have a lot of room for improvement unless the guys eliminate the lunch break between the first and second races. As far as starting at noon, we still have some racers arriving at the track too late to start at noon exactly (although 12:30 seems to be the optimum time to start). If we can get the guys to show up on time, ready to race at noon, we'll start at noon.
Keith
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Post by gonzalez on Nov 20, 2015 14:32:32 GMT -8
hello everybody. hey tim i think the gtps are on the lead page is because the enduro is being promoted.there is nothing saying you cant run LMP,retro and hardbody.if we go with a featured class each mo and your desired class comes up then come race it.hate to not race against you because of mixed and combined class. youre good comp.
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timneja
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Love racing these hard body cars!! The new knee is working better--so I'll be back soon!!
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Post by timneja on Nov 21, 2015 16:16:02 GMT -8
You're right of course. I just have to resign myself to the fact we don't have enough "old school" hard body racers anymore. The new GTP and Nascar stuff has taken over and it's just not my preference! It's not what attracted me to hard body in the first place!! Cya at the Enduro--- I"m going to head back to retro for a while. Can't make time for everything so something's gotta give! It's all good!!
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